500 or so Women for Sheheen

A month or so ago, Phil Bailey brought my attention to the fact that former Rep. Harriet Keyserling was trying to counter all the “first woman” buzz that Nikki Haley had by putting together a bipartisan “Women for Sheheen” committee.

As y’all know, it’s hard for me to identify with people who actively want to see someone of a particular gender, or race, or whatever, elected. To me, every candidate should be evaluated on the basis of his or her suitability without reference to such considerations. But I know lots of women across the political spectrum — women of good will — who do care about such things. They actually deeply identify with other women, something that is unimaginable for me (personally, I get no charge one way or the other from the successes or failures of other white guys qua white guys), but I have to acknowledge that they seem to be sincere about it.

So when Harriet sent me a letter on behalf of 100 women, I was interested — but I wanted to see the list of women. She said wait a bit, and she’d be able to give me a list — a much longer one.

So I waited. And now I have this:

Dear Friends:

Well, here it is. Not the 100 signers I hoped for, but over 500 from all across  the state. And what a wonderful mix these women are: stay-at-home-moms, doctors, lawyers, ministers, artists, realtors, executives ,teachers, college professors, democrats, independents and Republicans.

I hope you will look over the list,  find some friends from your town,  then  together  find a way to spread the word. Talk to your newspaper editors,   have a press conference, write letters, sign up others.  Soon.  Time is fleeting.  To refresh your memory, I ‘ve attached my original letter.  We have also created a website “Women for Sheheen” and solicit your input.

For further information,  go to  “Women for Sheheen” on Facebook  to which 600 people have signed on. It was startedby Madeleine McGee who organized, in Charleston, a 90 women paying $90 to sponsor a Sheheen fundraiser in appreciation of his support of women,  and in honor of  the 90th  anniversary of the women’s vote. 296  people attended and they raised $20,000.  I hear women in other cities are planning similar events. Click here for the original letter.

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Bell*Valerie Bunch Hollinger*Toni White*Virginia Rone*Lynn Hanson*Nancy Jarema*Ann B Smith*Kate Heald*Jennifer Philips*Harriet Smartt*Diane S. Hirsch*Francee Levin*Susan Mathis*Cary Caines*Cam Patterson*Maria Kendall*Carol Plexico*Catherine Hammond*Lynne Ravenel*Stephanie Billioux*Jeanne Garane*Patricia Battey*Susan Hester*Carolyn Bishop-McLeod*Dr. Anne Osborne Kilpatrick*Michelle Shain*Olga Caballero*Cindi Boiter*Vickie Eslinger*Mary Elizabeth Blanchard*Chris Kenney*Helen LaFitte*Susan Shirley*Susan Hogue*Margaret Willis*Nancy Bloodgood*Glenda Owens*Jane Morlan*Nancy Tuten* Barbara Pinkerton*Lisa Rentz*Cassandra Fralix*Cecelia Byers*Patricia Barnes*Valerie Hollinger*Beverly McClanahan*Monica Boucher-Romano*Barbara Bettini*Anne Arrington*Sej Harman*Barbara James*Barbara Kelly*Barbara Burgess*Aleksandra Cahuhan*Liz Key*Coleen H Yates*Beth W Moore*Bee K Brown* Mary Burkett*Barbara Young*Beverly Hiller*Charlene Gardner* Renate Moore*Pamela Meadows*Mary Bundrick*Bootsie Terry*Gwendolyn Brown*Wanda Meade*Mary Bryan*Marian Brilliant*Brooke A McMurray*Katherine Brown*Susu Ravenel*Patricia Agner*Catherine McCullough*Amanda McNulty*Nancy Cave*Ashley Brown*Wendy Brown*Cary LaFaye*Laura Gates*Joan Rubenstein*Janet Swigler*Evadna Kronquist*Kathy McLeod*Louise A Allen*Joan McGee*Marsha Beazley*Margaret Glover Bruce*Virginia S Moe*Meg McLean*Lucinda Shirley*Grace Rice*Lil Mood*Andrena Ray*Teresa Bruce*Terry Murray*Elaine Fredendall*Cornelia McGhee*Betsey Carter*Edna Anderson*Jane Frederick*Sidney Heyward*Ann Dibble*Dottie Ashley*Carol Ervin*Jane McGee-Davis*Liz Carroll*JoAnne Liles*Martha Bryan*Carole Moore*Kathryn Rhyne*Audrey Shifflett*Marilyn Summers*Mimi McNeish*Kay F. Bodenheimer*Susan T. Julavits, Shirley Henderson* Helen H. Farmer*Dr. Alice McGill*Ethel Sims*Dr. Joann B. Morton*Cynthia Rosengren*Cynthia Setnicka*Linda G Sosbee*Betty Huntley*Bernadette Scott*Bonnie Dumas*Beth-Keyserling Kramer*Marilyn Shaw*Dr. Julia Lipovsky*Eva Dior*Cynthia B Carpenter*Sharon Smith-Matthews*Russell Holliday*Rachel Hodges*Eleanor Spicer*Barbara Warley*Catherine Campbell*Ellie Setser*Jennifer Parker*Connie McKeown*Marianne Currie*Francis Allison Close*Anne Springs Close*Caren Ross*Anne Frances Bleecker*Marianne Currie

Yep, there are a lot of Democrats on that list. But there are some Republicans, too. And some who might be nonpartisan like me, and those are the ones I care most about. After all, we independents are the ones who decide general elections. And independent women would seem to be more susceptible to the “let’s elect a woman!” mania that would lead the Identity Politics-oriented to disregard qualifications and vote for Nikki.

But I have to say that while it’s great that Harriet has gone to the considerable trouble of recruiting this list, I’m not sure how indicative it is of Sheheen’s strength.

Harriet is like me in this respect: Her list of acquaintances, and the acquaintances of her acquaintances, are likely to be highly engaged voters, whatever their political orientation. If only people who are highly knowledgeable about these two candidates voted, of course Sheheen would win in a walk. The more anyone knows about Nikki and Vincent, the less inclined one is to take a chance on Nikki.

Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of voters are not that engaged. They are more likely to vote according to party (and this is Republicans’ year), or on some fleeting glimpse of mass media (and Nikki was on the cover of Newsweek).

So it’s great that these 500 or 600 women are backing Vincent. But he needs many, many times that. And most of the ones he needs are hard to reach, by any means. The latest Rasmussen poll showed us that they just aren’t paying attention.

By the way, here is Harriet’s original letter:

Subject: Letter from former State Rep. Harriet Keyserling

Women Supporting Vincent Sheheen for Governor

Dear Friends and Colleagues:

I’m writing on behalf of a bi-partisan group of women who have long
hoped to see a qualified woman governor of South Carolina. Alas,
Nikki Haley is not that woman.

We support Vincent Sheheen for governor. He will lead us responsibly
to improved educational achievement, protection of our natural
resources and more and better jobs.

1. PRIORITIES:

How legislators vote best demonstrates their priorities. We are
alarmed that Haley voted to sustain Governor Mark Sanford’s budget
vetoes, which, if passed, wouldhave irreparably harmed the very
agencies South Carolina needs to attract new industries and provide a
future for our children.

Haley was one of the few legislators who voted for Sanford’s budget vetoes
on:

• K-12 Education – Extensive funding cuts to textbooks, buses, and
the prestigious Schools for Math and Science, and Arts and Humanities.
• Higher Education - Across-the-board cuts for all universities, which
already had less state support and higher tuitions than any other
Southern state; ending Clemson’s extension programs for farmers and
gardeners.
• Cultural Agencies – Crippling cuts to the State Museum; the State
Library, which services local libraries; the State Arts Commission,
which supplies grants for arts in our schools and local programs; ETV;
and the Department of Archives and History, which preserves our
historical records.
• Health Services – Severe cuts to state services for diabetes,
hypertension, infectious diseases, rural hospitals and community
health programs.

Haley abstained from voting on other vetoes her colleagues overrode
almost unanimously: Technical Education (106-0), Ethics Commission
(102-2)), Airports, (105-1) and Aid to County Governments, (97-9).

In contrast, Vincent Sheheen voted against these vetoes; the budget
sent to the Governor by the legislature was balanced, the money was in
hand, no taxes were raised. If Sanford and Haley had prevailed,
unemployment would have increased by thousands, and the infrastructure
for education, the economy and the humanities would have been weakened
for years to come.

2. INEFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP

• In Haley’s six years in the House, she sponsored only one bill that
passed (relating to cosmetology).
• Haley chose confrontation to pursue her primary campaign issue of
transparency in government. Rather than reaching for compromise, Haley
traveled statewidewith Governor Sanford, campaigning against leaders
in her own party, garnering publicity for her own campaign. This kind
of leadership style would continue the present gridlock and stagnation
for years to come.

Haley was removed by the Republican leadership from the powerful
Labor, Commerce and Industry Committees, which she had hoped to chair,
because of these issues and more.

In contrast, Sheheen has led bi-partisan reforms, including tax reform
and restructuring state government for more efficiency. Sheheen also
led the successful floor fight for the Conservation Bank. The South
Carolina Chamber of Commerce endorsed him, noting his ability to work
with others, as did the Conservation Voters of South Carolina for his
outstanding environmental record.

3. STAND ON PUBLIC EDUCATION

• Haley did not attend one meeting or subcommittee meeting in 2010 as
a member of the Education Committee, where policy is molded,
indicating her disinterest in our public schools and colleges.
• Haley vigorously supports vouchers and tax credits for private schools.

In contrast, Sheheen strongly supports public education following the
tradition of his mother, a teacher in the public schools for 30 years.
He strongly opposes diverting public funds to vouchers for private
schools.

4. HYPOCRISY

• Haley calls for transparency with mandatory roll call votes, but
personally avoids it. According to Sen. Larry Martin (R.), Chairman
of the Senate Rules Committee (The State, June 24), Haley could easily
have asked for roll call votes on any sections of the budget, but she
did not.
• Haley would not release her e-mails, although every other government
official, including the governor, must legally do so if requested.
Although the Legislature exempted itself from the law, there is no
reason Haleycould not do so if she wished.
• Haley did not declare on her legislative ethics statement the
$40,500 consulting fee that was paid to her by a private company to
“make contacts” for them.

In contrast, Sheheen has released ten years of tax records and his
e-mails.

For all these reasons, we support Sheheen. We hope to have 100 women
sign on to this message, which we will spread across the state before
Election Day by Internet and in the media. We hope you will be one of
them.

Please forward this to five or more friends.

Thank you,

Harriet Keyserling

18 thoughts on “500 or so Women for Sheheen

  1. yarrrr

    Seriously, what if Republicans organized something this stupid if a liberal woman would have ran?

    And Rep. Harriet Keyserling is a radical abortion activist… I don’t think Nikki is missing her support…

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  2. Matt

    I think it’s funny that the people who (correctly) decry the injection of identity politics into an election usually like to counter it by injecting identity politics into an election.

    Maybe I should start a “Half-Italian-American Catholics for Haley” group.

    Anyway, most of the women I know who are supporting Nikki are doing so for reasons other than shared gender.

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  3. Brad

    I’m not sure whom Matt and Doug are talking about. Certainly not me. When have I ever said a good word about Identity Politics? I’ve always had a problem with it.

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  4. Brad

    Also, Matt, I’d love to know WHY those women are supporting Haley. Men, too. Because everything we learn about her is so negative — including her alleged positives, such as her business savvy and transparency, both of which turned out to be bogus.

    I can’t imagine what’s left to like.

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  5. Doug Ross

    > Because everything we learn about her is so negative

    Really? Everything? She has no redeeming qualities?

    Your Sanford Derangement Syndrome has now turned into Haley-tosis.

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  6. Doug Ross

    If Haley wins by more than 10 percentage points will some people finally get the hint that South Carolinians WANT a Governor who will use whatever limited power she has to stop the Legislature?

    Checked on the Sheheen website today. Pretty much a vast wasteland. Couple twitter posts. A bunch of news article links about Nikki Haley. Nothing substansive. Nothing game changing.

    Oh, there was this new addition to the Education issues page:

    “Over the last decade, state government has forced our dedicated teachers to obsess about standardized testing instead of allowing them to teach! As the son of an elementary school teacher and the parent of three young children, Vincent knows that students only truly learn when teachers are allowed to teach.”

    Wow! Let Teachers Teach. That pretty much solves the dropout problem right there. And, what exactly does that mean? Does Mr. Sheeheen want to see standardized tests abolished? I’d be for that one.

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  7. Stacy

    Thanks to Sarah Palin & her blind followers, the Non~vetting faction of SC voters, South Carolina now has NO choice in November. A Democrat (with their seriously FLAWED economic policies) or a both sides of her mouth talkin’ Libertarian with tax issues that make TurboTaxTimmy look like a boyscout. And she’s running a campaign on fiscal responsibility & transparency?!? SC is SCREWED either way. Thanks, Sarah Palin. Brains over bravado next time, people. In the meantime, I DO NOT look forward to 4 more years of unemployment stats HIGHER than the national levels & SAT scores dropping even lower. Grrrrrrr.

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  8. bud

    Why do people in SC support Haley? It’s easy really. For some inexplicable reason people here buy into this whole nonsense about the evils of liberalism. You ask what does that have to do with Sheheen, a moderate at best (or worst depending on your philosophical bent). People here believe, for whatever reason, that a far right conservative gives them their best chance for prosperity and security. All the evidence suggests otherwise but that’s the way it is.

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  9. Maude Lebowski

    Brad I understand your disdain for identity politics but what bothers me is your proclaimed inability to understand it. South Carolina did not ratify the 19th amendment or allow women to serve on juries until 1969. While I understand why people engage in identity politics (it’s about power, duh) I also realize that more women in elected office does not necessarily equate with more power for women. There are some male candidates who will do more for gender equality than some female candidates. Same goes for race, sexual preference, etc. After seeing so many female public-school teachers vote for republican after republican governor I’ve lost a lot of confidence in them to think outside of party lines. I can only hope that they’re smart enough to think beyond gender.

    Anyway, thanks for sharing the link.

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  10. bud

    Stacy illustrates my point. On the one hand he states, as though it is a confirmed fact beyond reproach, that the Democrat has “seriously FLAWED economic policies”. Then he turns around and points out how South Carolina, a very Republican state, has unemployment much higher than the national average.

    Huh!! Seems like that’s pretty compelling evidence that the GOP has the “seriously flawed economic policies”.

    But give Stacy credit, he at least acknowledges that Haley is a bad choice.

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  11. Stacy

    Ummm, 1st of all, I am a woman, not a man. 2ndly, Mark Sanford is a KNOWN Libertarian, NOT a Republican, as is his apprentice Nikki Haley & 3rdly, check out the economic condition of our country if you need proof of the Democrat’s “seriously FLAWED economic policies”. The PUDDING is SERVED.

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  12. scout

    Stacy,

    Do you remember the news that the recession ended a year ago. That means the economy stopped going down and turned around and started coming back up – a year ago. It’s coming back waaaaay slow (creeping, even), and it’s nowhere near back where it was before it sank like a stone (which is why it still feels bad), ….. but nevertheless, it is coming back. It changed direction. & that happened on Obama’s watch. The going down part – that happened during the 8 years of republican control.

    So if you are going draw conclusions about economic policies, be sure to consider, the economy went down under Bush, and turned around and started slowly coming back under Obama.

    Really I think these things are far too complex to draw conclusions from just who was in office at the time, but since that seems to be what you are doing, at least get the who and what and when correlated correctly.

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  13. Karen McLeod

    Stacy, When Clinton left office the economy was in good shape, and the government was running a surplus. It took the GOP 8 years and an unfunded war to put it in the tank. What makes you think the Dems (or anyone else for that matter) can get it out in 2?

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  14. Stacy

    Blah blah BLAME BUSH blah blah. Check the deficit ~ it has QUADRUPLED since Democrat control of all 3 branches. Check UNEMPLOYMENT. IF the Dem POTUS & Dem Congress had not made JOB KILLING legislation & policies, the recession may would have been over by now, indeed. NOT TO MENTION the DEMS had control of Congress (THE governmental purse-strings) since 2006. More PUDDING for you?

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